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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 11:04 pm 
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I would like to see
-Different magazines (C mags)
-Laser sights
-Scopes
-Silencer (can switch between silenced and un-silenced)

I would greatly appreciate it if we have a choice of which of these attachements we wanted to equip or gun with. :D





Lastly, I would like to see the ability to switch between full auto, burst, and Single shot. 8-)


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 2:24 am 
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lol the beta c mags.....I dont think I would like to have one of those on my m4 or g36......weigh you down alot.....why not just grab an m249 o_0


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An M249 would be heavier?

However, C-Mags have horrible reliability, so why use them?

Maybe not C-Mags, but different types of magazine, i.e. a 20, 30, 50, or 100 (a little absurd) magazine for the Thompson, or a 20 round trench magazine for the Mauser rifle. Perhaps even a drum magazine for the Colt 1911.

As for the laser sights, unless they are actually useful in aiming the weapon, don´t put them in. Just another useless thing to model.

I think silencers are already included, but I´m not sure if they are permanently attached or what. I´d like to be able to switch between silenced and unsilenced for accuracy and what not.

Scopes should be realistic (and I think that you guys have already stated that they will be).


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Drum magazine on a Colt 1911? I think not.

A BELT FED 1911? HELL YES!

http://www.shottist.com/beltfed.html

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a Belt-fed bolt action rilfe thats just too much :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 8:13 am 
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Michael Kane wrote:
Drum magazine on a Colt 1911? I think not.

A BELT FED 1911? HELL YES!

http://www.shottist.com/beltfed.html


There is a drum magazine for the Col 1911. It isn´t even a modern day invention, it was invented in the 1930´s or 1940´s.


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Attachments of some kind will be included, but I can't get into the scope of it yet (what kinds of attachments or what flexibility for different weapons).

As for those belt fed modifications, they're awesome but I'm skeptical that they actually work, as they include no videos of them in action.


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I'm well aware of the drum magazine for the 1911. http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b278/ ... snail1.jpg

I was just trying to make a joke while at the same time showing something cool :roll:


I'm a bit skeptical as well, but I guess pictures is the only thing we'll ever see. It's a nifty idea even if it is fake, though. :)

[URL encoded the spaces in the link so you don't need to copy/paste it -Sox34]

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Michael Kane wrote:
I'm a bit skeptical as well, but I guess pictures is the only thing we'll ever see. It's a nifty idea even if it is fake, though. :)


Damn nifty, I agree. The idea of a belt fed Glock 18 is highly intriguing. Oh, the possibilities...


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Possibilities for hot fingers, jams and ammunition cooking.

The weapon is physically too small to radiate off the kind of heat that prolonged firing causes.


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Or the possibility to have a unique little gun that everyone will "ooo" and "ahhh" over. It would probably be quite fun to shoot.

Just because it has no practicality in war or fighting doesn't mean it isn't a neat design.

Besides, I bet you could at least partly fix the heat issues with a little work from "Seamus"

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The plastic would melt.

Maybe a belt fed Thompson? That´d be very interesting.


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DerMann wrote:
The plastic would melt.


Your rationality is interfering with my lust! Curses!!! :D


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Actually, there was a belt fed Thompson in the works.

The "Persuader" http://www.auto-ordnance.com/images/vg_persuader.gif

Very little info about it, only on a wikipedia article really. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thompson_submachine_gun

As for the Glock....Machine some steel in the shape of a glock =P

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It's not mechanically possible for a Glock to feed from a belt anyways, it has an insane rate of fire already just firing from a magazine. Glock manufactures 31 round magazines which are pretty handy, albeit about as big as SMG mags. The only drawback to it's design is the breech and barrel are going to take quite abit of wear from sustained fire, and will need serious maintenance and/or replacing after a few hundred rounds.


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Fine. Completely ruin my dreams. I'll just stick to my belt fed 1911, Scout bolt action, and Thompson.

:P

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So, what's the word? Will there be weapon attachments?

[corlor=red]Edit:[/color] I guess what I have discovered is that each gun is differes from the others in terms of flexability. I thinkt hat this should be reflected in Alliance. Each gun supports a different degree of customization. A lot of guns support grenade launcehrs and many support different ypes of magazniesn and different round types. Others can have scopes attatched to them.

SMGs and psitols only appear to be compatible with silencers.

In my opinion, when you are selecting your guns in in the War studio, you should also be able to select your attachments.

Important! It would be really neat, in game we could switch between attchments, like silencer (remove/affix the silencer) and magazines (swap out differerent types of magazines.)

I was thinking, maybe you can carry several types of magazines for each weapon (maybe this should be part of your load out) :
-Drum
-30 round
etc..


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 5:16 pm 
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That arbitrary amount of attachment interoperability is extremely hard to program for, which is why I am not arbitrarily saying "Yes!!!" to everything. We're doing are best to make it as flexible as possible, but keep in mind, we DO have over 200 weapons in the game. It's quite the tall order.


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Well, as I said mostpistols only are compatible with silencers, making them far less flexible than Assault Rifles and SMGs, wihcih makes your job eaiser. :)


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About Sound Suppressors ( or "Silencer")

A great link that is : http://guns.connect.fi/rs/measure.html


A professional would never, if not forced by breakdown or extremly confined space remove the Can. It alters the accuracy of the rifle, usually moving the point of impact to the left.

Advantages with standard rounds:

+ less noise;
a) very important for keeping a low profile and for being hard to track down. The bulletnoise caused by the flight of the supersonic bullet confuses the enemy, making it very difficult to estimate distance and angle of your position.
b) Saves your hearing especially in CQ and small rooms, thus facilitating C3 and your hearing

+ much less flash;
"A silencer does not make a soldier silent, but invisible" Finnish proverb
Especially important in night combat, the gun doesn't blind you and doesn't cry anymore "here I am, shoot me please"

+ less recoil; makes a 7,62 mm easily controllable in auto, due to weight, the position of it and most important the change in time and direction of the exit of the hot gasses

+ higher accuracy with single shots and much higher one in full-auto, due to better swinging of the barrel and lower recoil

+\- higher ROF



+ better balance with bullups

- more heat

- worse balance with standard rifles

- more weight and length


Let us please use sound suppressors both with standard and subsonic rounds, if possible. Personally I would favor in standard operation the standard ones.


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