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Author:  Tyrant's Heart [ Sat May 27, 2006 7:51 pm ]
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Since Halo, most FPS are limiting the number of weapons, usually two. Will there be such a feature in Alliance? Or are we going to have 4D pockets that can carry 200 weapons? If it's the former, how many weapons are we allowed to carry in Alliance?

Author:  wolfiejr [ Sun May 28, 2006 12:09 am ]
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Tyrant's Heart wrote:
Since Halo, most FPS are limiting the number of weapons, usually two. Will there be such a feature in Alliance? Or are we going to have 4D pockets that can carry 200 weapons? If it's the former, how many weapons are we allowed to carry in Alliance?



I hope a gun and a pistol...
Now if its a "large" gun we should on be able to carry *that* gun.

Author:  AeroCmdr [ Sun May 28, 2006 12:12 am ]
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wolfiejr wrote:
Tyrant's Heart wrote:
Since Halo, most FPS are limiting the number of weapons, usually two. Will there be such a feature in Alliance? Or are we going to have 4D pockets that can carry 200 weapons? If it's the former, how many weapons are we allowed to carry in Alliance?



I hope a gun and a pistol...
Now if its a "large" gun we should only be able to carry *that* gun.
I agree.

Author:  Bidiot [ Sun May 28, 2006 12:30 am ]
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Well I say two assult weapons and a pistol, I mean Most weapons have slings(not normaly in combat) but it is a game, But with a say a m249 and an m4, you can easily sling one weapon and shoot with the other.

Author:  Tyrant's Heart [ Sun May 28, 2006 1:01 am ]
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Perfect Dark Zero has a "slot" system where you have four slots to fit your weapons. Thus, if it's a big gun it'll occupy two or three slots, or if it's a big-ass anti tank cannon it'll occupy all slots and so on. An "improvement" over Halo, perhaps.

Author:  AllianceEric [ Sun May 28, 2006 1:03 am ]
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We haven't finalized it. But a minimum of a primary weapon and two sidearms. In real life it's very easy to just have a side holster or two for a sidearm, so if you want to carry the extra weight, we'll let you.

We might also make it such that you can carry a second smaller primary weapon slinged, depending on the size of the principle primary weapon and whether or not it can in turn be slinged. Note that doing so would add a LOT of weight, not only because of the extra primary weapon but also the extra ammo, so in most cases it wouldn't be a good idea due to the drawbacks.

Switching weapons will also be more realistic in Alliance than in most FPSes and will usually not be as fast.

Author:  Tyrant's Heart [ Sun May 28, 2006 1:11 am ]
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Sox34 wrote:
We haven't finalized it. But a minimum of a primary weapon and two sidearms. In real life it's very easy to just have a side holster or two for a sidearm, so if you want to carry the extra weight, we'll let you.

We might also make it such that you can carry a second smaller primary weapon slinged, depending on the size of the principle primary weapon and whether or not it can in turn be slinged. Note that doing so would add a LOT of weight, not only because of the extra primary weapon but also the extra ammo, so in most cases it wouldn't be a good idea due to the drawbacks.

Switching weapons will also be more realistic in Alliance than in most FPSes and will usually not be as fast.


Does making gunplay realistic creates a tactical decision & manuevre in Alliance?

Author:  AllianceEric [ Sun May 28, 2006 11:29 pm ]
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Tyrant's Heart wrote:
Does making gunplay realistic creates a tactical decision & manuevre in Alliance?


What do you mean?

Author:  Tyrant's Heart [ Mon May 29, 2006 1:47 am ]
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Sox34 wrote:
Tyrant's Heart wrote:
Does making gunplay realistic creates a tactical decision & manuevre in Alliance?


What do you mean?


Since you imply it'll take time to switch between weapons, does this create a tactical scenario for my character?

Author:  wolfiejr [ Mon May 29, 2006 2:35 am ]
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Quote:

Since you imply it'll take time to switch between weapons, does this create a tactical scenario for my character?




I hope they make it like this

Author:  AllianceEric [ Tue May 30, 2006 12:15 pm ]
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Yes, it will make the gameplay actually involve better and more realistic tactics. You won't be switching back and forth between your sniper rifle and smg, such that you can instantly engage anyone at any distance equally effective.

The switch from a slinged primary weapon to a holstered sidearm will be quickest (in that direction).

Author:  Tango Lima 832 [ Thu Jun 01, 2006 8:25 am ]
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I think that carrying more then one primary gun is not needed, and dont forget that you are a soldier on a battlefield - not a SWAT officer. You have to carry a medpack, a backpack with some food, an infantry shovel, a bayonet, flask with water. And add an armor west for 1980+ scenarios(and army wests are usually heavier then police kevlars).All we need to do is just take combat roles and cooperate with others, just like in real life.

Author:  Steppenwolf [ Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:58 am ]
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One primary is just enough. It is not very common to see in any conflict somebody having more than one primary weapon. Usually that would happen if squad mate has been injured or killed so the other soldiers carry his gear rather than leave it on the field.

On side note, I would prefer to have a handgun, knife and maybe frag regardless to what is my primary weapon. However, it is not that big deal.


SW

Author:  Zammo [ Thu Jun 01, 2006 3:22 pm ]
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The only soldiers who tend to carry more than one primary weapon are speicial forces. But I prefer to play as a regular infantry soldier so one primary, a pistol, knife and grenades will do me.

But I definately don't like the situation you have in BF2 where a soldier can have a massive reloadable anti tank weapon and an SMG aswell. Its fine having a light weight disposable anti tank weapon such as a LAW with a primary weapon. But in these situations the devs need to take into account if its realistic and will it unbalance the game?

Author:  ComieKazie [ Mon Jun 05, 2006 6:33 pm ]
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While taking into account location based damage, the Eryx and SRAW are practically worthless in the game. The game is balanced toward the AT men as such. Nothing short of non-conventional warfare could help them.

To the topic: One primary seems to be the consensus and I will contribute my agreeance. I would imagine having two, plus standard equipment, to be disadvantageously unwieldly at best quality (in lack of some fantastic space economy device beyond the binding properties of science).

Author:  Tango Lima 832 [ Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:19 am ]
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In basic layout, only primary for all pre-198X scenarios, primary and a sidearm for AT-soldiers and snipers after 198X

Author:  paint666 [ Mon Jun 12, 2006 1:22 am ]
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Bidiot wrote:
Well I say two assult weapons and a pistol, I mean Most weapons have slings(not normaly in combat) but it is a game, But with a say a m249 and an m4, you can easily sling one weapon and shoot with the other.

yep. this is even modeled in the americas army game, which is supposedly real life accurate ( because its made by the army)

Author:  Zammo [ Mon Jun 12, 2006 4:03 am ]
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You'd really struggle to carry around a M249 and M4, plus all the ammo for them and all your other standard kit.

Author:  DerMann [ Mon Jun 12, 2006 6:18 am ]
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The M249 only weighs about 15 pounds (unloaded) , and the M4 is about 6 pounds. That's managable, but by no means heavy.

Carrying around a BAR and a Thompson, on the other hand, would be heavy. The BAR is 20 pounds and the Thompson is about 10 pounds. Plus, the ammo is probably a lot heavier.

I think upto two rifles and pistol, upto two assault rifles/SMG's and a pistol, an LMG and a pistol or carbine, and one would still be able to carry grenades.

And most weapons do have sling slots or loops, so yeah. And even some pistols have lanyard loops so you can wear 'em 'round your neck :D

Author:  Zammo [ Mon Jun 12, 2006 11:50 am ]
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I sincerely hope they don't allow that.

Everyone will be going around with an LMG and assault rifle or an Assault rifle and a sniper rifle. :x

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