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First of all its desert eagle, Not "deagle". Any way, Duel weilding subs is worse then pistols becuase it is now much harder to reload, not saying reloading with a pistol in two hands is easy, But for realism duel weilding is up there with sprinting while shooting accuretly, and ghosts. And for a decent shot with a pistol you would hold it with two hands as well.


Everyone seems to think that reloading two SMGs is completely impossible it's not. Go play Max Payne 2.

Just to recap, some SMGs to produce to much recoil and are too big to be dual wielded but someare perefectly viable like the MP7 and MAC10.

"Deagle" is slang. You no play CS?


Have you ever fired a mac 10? Not That I have but I have a friend who has 2 of them (one .45 one 9mm) And as he told me shooting a mac 10 without a buttstock or a silencer...something to give some more weight to it the recoil is going to huge. So maybe you should re think your statement?


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Well, one things for sure. The MP7 can clearly be dual wielded very easily. For the proof, go look at the video that I posted in the weapon suggestions thread.

The Mini Uzi also looks like it produces very little recoil.

Sox, did you guys test a Mini Uzi?


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Well, one things for sure. The MP7 can clearly be dual wielded very easily. For the proof, go look at the video that I posted in the weapon suggestions thread.

The Mini Uzi also looks like it produces very little recoil.

Sox, did you guys test a Mini Uzi?


Ok the mirco uzi is lighter than the mac10....so it would have more recoil also it has a fast rate of fire....so that means the muzzle climb will be greater (recoil) so again...no


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Well, let's wait for someone who has tested to answer this instead of jumping to conclusions prematureley.

The MP7 still looks like a great option for dual wielding.


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|_}UM{--}G{_|FeAR wrote:
Well, let's wait for someone who has tested to answer this instead of jumping to conclusions prematureley.

The MP7 still looks like a great option for dual wielding.
You can fire the MP7 as a pistol but you couldn't control it at all in full auto fire.

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The Mini Uzi is 360mm long, weighs 2.5 kilograms, and fires 9mm cartridges at 950 RPM. The Micro Uzi is 250mm long, weighs 2.2 kilograms, and fires 9mm cartridges at 1250 RPM. The MAC10 is 269mm long, weighs 2.84 kilograms, and fires .45ACP cartridges at ~1000 RPM.

Order I would put them in (most recoil to least)

1. MAC10
2. Micro Uzi
3. Mini Uzi

The smaller and lighter a weapon gets, the more recoil it has. The more powerful the cartridge, the more recoil.


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|_}UM{--}G{_|FeAR wrote:
Well, let's wait for someone who has tested to answer this instead of jumping to conclusions prematureley.

The MP7 still looks like a great option for dual wielding.
You can fire the MP7 as a pistol but you couldn't control it at all in full auto fire.

Watch the bloody video. He fires it in ful auto.

What an "inconvenient truth" huh?


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|_}UM{--}G{_|FeAR wrote:
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|_}UM{--}G{_|FeAR wrote:
Well, let's wait for someone who has tested to answer this instead of jumping to conclusions prematureley.

The MP7 still looks like a great option for dual wielding.
You can fire the MP7 as a pistol but you couldn't control it at all in full auto fire.

Watch the bloody video. He fires it in ful auto.

What an "inconvenient truth" huh?
Yes with the stock extended like your supposted too.

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|_}UM{--}G{_|FeAR wrote:
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|_}UM{--}G{_|FeAR wrote:
Well, let's wait for someone who has tested to answer this instead of jumping to conclusions prematureley.

The MP7 still looks like a great option for dual wielding.
You can fire the MP7 as a pistol but you couldn't control it at all in full auto fire.

Watch the bloody video. He fires it in ful auto.

What an "inconvenient truth" huh?
Yes with the stock extended like your supposted too.

I don't see him bracing the weapon at all.

The Mp7 is a perfectly viable option for dual wielding.


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|_}UM{--}G{_|FeAR wrote:
AeroCmdr wrote:
|_}UM{--}G{_|FeAR wrote:
AeroCmdr wrote:
|_}UM{--}G{_|FeAR wrote:
Well, let's wait for someone who has tested to answer this instead of jumping to conclusions prematureley.

The MP7 still looks like a great option for dual wielding.
You can fire the MP7 as a pistol but you couldn't control it at all in full auto fire.

Watch the bloody video. He fires it in ful auto.

What an "inconvenient truth" huh?
Yes with the stock extended like your supposted too.

I don't see him bracing the weapon at all.

The Mp7 is a perfectly viable option for dual wielding.
You mean when he shoots it like a pistol in semi?

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|_}UM{--}G{_|FeAR wrote:
I don't see him bracing the weapon at all.

The Mp7 is a perfectly viable option for dual wielding.



What do you mean he wasnt bracing it? He had the stock out and he was pulling it into his sholder while holding onto the forward grip.

And although it may be possible to duel wield the Mp7, if you were able to only use that feature with certain guns, because there are obvious reasons why you would be able to, I think that would offset the balance of the game. How odd would it be for a feature of the game to be "Duel wield Mp7s!!!! (but only the mp7 and nothing else)"


But w/e, Sox has already mentioned several times that its not going to be in the game, but did say that if someone wanted to, it would be possible to mod it into the game.

Vids of ppl duel wielding
http://youtube.com/watch?v=gcrmK3jV-4s& ... rt%20eagle

http://youtube.com/watch?search=duel+wi ... vVTltCgvR4


As someone said earlier, its Possible to, but not very Practical. Granted, they were shooting both guns very fast, but I doubt accurately.


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Just to add to that how do you plan to reload?...this game is supposed to be realistic and yes in the movies they do...but that is a bunch of bull shit you try reloading 2 mac 10s in your hands...or even the mp7 and unless you got some giant hands in the game you are not going to be able to do that....and if you think different show me a video or pictures please...


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DerMann wrote:
The Mini Uzi is 360mm long, weighs 2.5 kilograms, and fires 9mm cartridges at 950 RPM. The Micro Uzi is 250mm long, weighs 2.2 kilograms, and fires 9mm cartridges at 1250 RPM. The MAC10 is 269mm long, weighs 2.84 kilograms, and fires .45ACP cartridges at ~1000 RPM.

Order I would put them in (most recoil to least)

1. MAC10
2. Micro Uzi
3. Mini Uzi

The smaller and lighter a weapon gets, the more recoil it has. The more powerful the cartridge, the more recoil.


Rate of fire is a factor.
The slower the rate of fire the more controllable and smaller the grouping.


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Bigdaddy wrote:
I hope we dont have dual welding in this game...it would take the realistic feeling away from it. Name one Military that issues 2 pistols to each soldier....there is none its point less. You have an assualt rifle or smg whats the point of droping that to use 2 pistols?!?!?!

I could name plenty of police forces that do.

It depends on the scenario. If I was the presidents bodyguard I wouldn't be allowed to openly carry a machine gun. i would have to maximise my fire power from smaller options.


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AeroCmdr wrote:
|_}UM{--}G{_|FeAR wrote:
The MP7 still looks like a great option for dual wielding.
You can fire the MP7 as a pistol but you couldn't control it at all in full auto fire.

I can control a an uzi one handed on full auto, so my bet is you can.


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baff wrote:
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|_}UM{--}G{_|FeAR wrote:
The MP7 still looks like a great option for dual wielding.
You can fire the MP7 as a pistol but you couldn't control it at all in full auto fire.

I can control a an uzi one handed on full auto, so my bet is you can.
With or without the stock extended?

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The Mini Uzi is 360mm long, weighs 2.5 kilograms, and fires 9mm cartridges at 950 RPM. The Micro Uzi is 250mm long, weighs 2.2 kilograms, and fires 9mm cartridges at 1250 RPM. The MAC10 is 269mm long, weighs 2.84 kilograms, and fires .45ACP cartridges at ~1000 RPM.

Order I would put them in (most recoil to least)

1. MAC10
2. Micro Uzi
3. Mini Uzi

The smaller and lighter a weapon gets, the more recoil it has. The more powerful the cartridge, the more recoil.



Rate of fire is a factor.
The slower the rate of fire the more controllable and smaller the grouping.


This is why I listed the weights.


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Not to get off the subject of Duel Weilding but are you or can u put at least a bayonet at the end of your gun. Kinda like the crazy Japanesse in WW2? :?:

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I can control a an uzi one handed on full auto, so my bet is you can.
With or without the stock extended?

Ye olde wooden stock.


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I can control a an uzi one handed on full auto, so my bet is you can.
With or without the stock extended?

Ye olde wooden stock.
Good old wooden stock. But I'm talking about shooting it without a stock and just holding it in one hand.

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