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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:17 pm 
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Ok I am getting a job soon and I need some help picking out a new gun or two. I would like a CETME or G3 Clone Of some sort because I love the round. And I want some surplus weapons also...but I am not sure what I want. And I love the Ak-47 platform. I am just torn on what to get..help me :D

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Get something of 7.62 flavor. Like an FAL or variant.


Those are awsome :D



And between the CETME or the G3, I would get the G3.

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Ya..because there are so many of them for sale -_-

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Just go to Walmart. Look in the sporting section.

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Just go to Walmart. Look in the sporting section.


Your an idiot and I dont want to see your posting anything about guns anymore unless its about games other than that shut up...

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Your an idiot and I dont want to see your posting anything about guns anymore unless its about games other than that shut up...

It's just a joke. No need for name calling, buddy.

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Get a Sl-8 and convert it to look like a G-36? There are new ones coming in the country now. I'm psyched about the civi SCARs in 2008. I would really like a SCAR-H.

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I'de get a P90. There'sa a semi auto civilian version.

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Whats the point of having a P90 if you cant ripp 50rounds in 5 seconds? :D

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The FAL is the way to go, but the Cetme is nice. The FAL comes in many flavors and, unlike an AR, it won't fail when you need it the most. I would show you Ol' Dirty, but you would need to register on that forum.

For some reason I do not like the G3, rip off of the Cetme. You should build one. The Cetme is a pain with the trigger housing mods and US parts are hard to come by (took 2 years for a flashhider for mine), but that shouldn't stop you.

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Bigdaddy wrote:
Ok I am getting a job soon and I need some help picking out a new gun or two. I would like a CETME or G3 Clone Of some sort because I love the round. And I want some surplus weapons also...but I am not sure what I want. And I love the Ak-47 platform. I am just torn on what to get..help me :D


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overall the p90 is one of the best weapons in the world currently. highly acc., deadly to armor, great range, and stability in full auto. i know people in special forces that would love to carry the p90 instead of other weapons. atleast as a sidearm or something because of its abilities and compact size. mp7 is the other pick that some have said. only major drawback to the p90 is the magazine which is also a good thing at the same time. the p90 is build that there is only one way for anything to get into the gun and that is through barrel. the magazine is limited to only 50 rounds which some could say is a limited thing but 50 round s is a lot and you can carry over 20 mags on you because of its shape.

g36 series, M416 series<(not the m4 its newer mechanics) and the imi Tavor TAR-21, there are other notable guns out there but if you take in account for what they can do those are some of the better guns out there.


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You cannot get the MP-7 or Tavor in the country (I'm hoping at somepoint but not atm). There were a few HK416 uppers floating around but they are illegal to have atm but POF makes a gas piston upper that is practically the same. You can get the Sl-8 which is pretty much a G-36 but to make it look like a G-36 you have to pay a lot to get the optics and parts for it.

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You cannot get the MP-7 or Tavor in the country (I'm hoping at somepoint but not atm). There were a few HK416 uppers floating around but they are illegal to have atm but POF makes a gas piston upper that is practically the same. You can get the Sl-8 which is pretty much a G-36 but to make it look like a G-36 you have to pay a lot to get the optics and parts for it.



The POF upper is different than the 416 upper, the Leitner Wise upper is more closely related to the 416 upper. Also, the 416 upper is not illegal to have, but it is illegal for HK to import them here for civilians. Soon you will be able to buy 416 parts kits, but those will be very expensive.


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You cannot get the MP-7 or Tavor in the country (I'm hoping at somepoint but not atm). There were a few HK416 uppers floating around but they are illegal to have atm but POF makes a gas piston upper that is practically the same. You can get the Sl-8 which is pretty much a G-36 but to make it look like a G-36 you have to pay a lot to get the optics and parts for it.



The POF upper is different than the 416 upper, the Leitner Wise upper is more closely related to the 416 upper. Also, the 416 upper is not illegal to have, but it is illegal for HK to import them here for civilians. Soon you will be able to buy 416 parts kits, but those will be very expensive.
I meant practically the same looking. The ATF said that the 416 uppers are machine guns that were made after 1986 so they are pretty much illegal or something like that.

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You cannot get the MP-7 or Tavor in the country (I'm hoping at somepoint but not atm).


H&K has little desire to cater to the civilian market outside of handguns. H&K is notorious for being less-than-enthusiastic about the 2nd Amendment and U.S. customers. Why? Well, because they think they can survive on MIL/LE sales alone. Since the HK94/HK91, they've made no conscious effort to make available to the civilian population.

And, no, the SL-8 is not an example of this, it was a half-assed reply to the thousands of people that wanted a civie-legal G36. H&K could've easily gave us a AWB and 922r compliant G36 semi copy - it wouldn't have been a problem at all. However, no, they pandered their shit in line with the P.C. standards of soccer mom community. Black guns are evil, you know.

And, to add insult to injury - SL-8s won't take "high-capacity" G36 mags without modification. Shit, not even Bill Ruger went that far. I mean, this is the same company that sues it's LICENSED DEALERS for using their logo in promotion of their weapon sales (which, to my knowledge, any other gun manufacturer would not and has never done).

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There were a few HK416 uppers floating around but they are illegal to have atm but POF makes a gas piston upper that is practically the same.


They aren't illegal. H&K just decided you and I are unworthy of owning such items. HK416s are only uppers, and the only worry you need to have is if once you put it on your AR15 lower if it is 922r compliant or not - which I believe it is.

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You can get the Sl-8 which is pretty much a G-36 but to make it look like a G-36 you have to pay a lot to get the optics and parts for it.


Yep. More than what the rifle is worth spending on, IMO. Thank you, H&K!


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You cannot get the MP-7 or Tavor in the country (I'm hoping at somepoint but not atm).


H&K has little desire to cater to the civilian market outside of handguns. H&K is notorious for being less-than-enthusiastic about the 2nd Amendment and U.S. customers. Why? Well, because they think they can survive on MIL/LE sales alone. Since the HK94/HK91, they've made no conscious effort to make available to the civilian population.

And, no, the SL-8 is not an example of this, it was a half-assed reply to the thousands of people that wanted a civie-legal G36. H&K could've easily gave us a AWB and 922r compliant G36 semi copy - it wouldn't have been a problem at all. However, no, they pandered their shit in line with the P.C. standards of soccer mom community. Black guns are evil, you know.

And, to add insult to injury - SL-8s won't take "high-capacity" G36 mags without modification. Shit, not even Bill Ruger went that far. I mean, this is the same company that sues it's LICENSED DEALERS for using their logo in promotion of their weapon sales (which, to my knowledge, any other gun manufacturer would not and has never done).

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There were a few HK416 uppers floating around but they are illegal to have atm but POF makes a gas piston upper that is practically the same.


They aren't illegal. H&K just decided you and I are unworthy of owning such items. HK416s are only uppers, and the only worry you need to have is if once you put it on your AR15 lower if it is 922r compliant or not - which I believe it is.

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You can get the Sl-8 which is pretty much a G-36 but to make it look like a G-36 you have to pay a lot to get the optics and parts for it.


Yep. More than what the rifle is worth spending on, IMO. Thank you, H&K!
Yeah I love HK but they kind of hate us. I'm pretty sure the ATF said that those uppers were machine guns and people had to turn them in.

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Yeah I love HK but they kind of hate us. I'm pretty sure the ATF said that those uppers were machine guns and people had to turn them in.


Well, I know the BATFE has a history of stupid rulings, but I don't see how that's possible. The lower fire control group is the only thing that regulates firing modes... Even if you have a full-auto bolt and bolt carrier, it won't mean jack unless you have a RDIS or some sort of full-auto mechanism.


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Yeah I love HK but they kind of hate us. I'm pretty sure the ATF said that those uppers were machine guns and people had to turn them in.


Well, I know the BATFE has a history of stupid rulings, but I don't see how that's possible. The lower fire control group is the only thing that regulates firing modes... Even if you have a full-auto bolt and bolt carrier, it won't mean jack unless you have a RDIS or some sort of full-auto mechanism.
Yeah but they issued something like that making people turn them in and charging them with a illegal machine gun.

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