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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 2:02 am 
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if you read the write up, he can get them produced at 2500 a unit if the army mass orders them, thats alot less then a million a unit.

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Colt .45 Killer wrote:
if you read the write up, he can get them produced at 2500 a unit if the army mass orders them, thats alot less then a million a unit.


I ready the arcticle before hand don't worry I was exaggerating, I just don't believe that 2000 is anywhere close to the real cost.


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if you read the write up, he can get them produced at 2500 a unit if the army mass orders them, thats alot less then a million a unit.


I ready the arcticle before hand don't worry I was exaggerating, I just don't believe that 2000 is anywhere close to the real cost.


I, too, doubt that will be the final cost. Consider that you'd have to have different length exosuit parts because people are different heights. It'd be impossible to totally standardize it.


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While I think he was somewhat serious, tbh, I think it was meant mainly as a gimick.



lol, little watch thing in the crotch...

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that thing is no gimmick, i saw some stuff on tv of some armor he made that was pillow weight, and meant to go into veichles, they tested it against all rifle and assault rifle rounds, nada damage.

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Colt .45 Killer wrote:
that thing is no gimmick, i saw some stuff on tv of some armor he made that was pillow weight, and meant to go into veichles, they tested it against all rifle and assault rifle rounds, nada damage.


It's not listed in his list of investions, so perhaps it's someone else. Besides, it must not have worked too well, since it isn't going on vehicles that so desperately needed armor.

And, Hurtubise does have a history of gimmicky announcements... look at "Angel Light" for the perfect example.


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The armour stuff was a kind of plastic gel. Supposedly bomb proof and able to withstand repeated strikes by sniper rifle bullets on the exact same stuff.

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The 'Trojan' Body armor looks like its hard plastic with metal or ceramic plates.

The material your thinking of is some sort of Dilatant. when impacted it changes from a jelly state to a solid and once the pressure is relieved it returns to a liquid(ish) state.


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Spiffinz wrote:
While I think he was somewhat serious, tbh, I think it was meant mainly as a gimick.



lol, little watch thing in the crotch...

Hahhah..

"Bob! What the hell time is it! "


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Hmm.. guess yall are right.


Maybe he is really serious about it...





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http://dsc.discovery.com/fansites/futur ... -area.html

Ok go to this url click the season 2 tab scroll down until you see Future:Weapons Dragon Skin.

In the actual episode after the firing range he placed a frag grenade under this body armor and detonated it and no fragments even tore the inner fabric.


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I forgot why it failed but soldiers are not allowed to wear dragon skin because it failed Military testing standards.

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ive seen it take whole grenade explosions in the torso, so dragonskin is good. im surprised it failed the test. however, with a grenade, ur arms would be ripped off in the mean time, so i think that if trojan actually works, i think it will be favored. what makes sense to me is that it seems that so much is taken from the mogadishu fight, in which armor in the back was not good enough without the ceramic, which was bulky, and that caused problems. also, built in weapons would also make sense because in mogadishu, ammo was a serious concern. ultimately, dragonskin is still to conventional i think, because u can achieve much of the same things with ceramic armor, though it is less flexible, and ur torso is the only thing that is covered. i think full armor is the next evolution of armor.


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Bidiot wrote:
I forgot why it failed but soldiers are not allowed to wear dragon skin because it failed Military testing standards.


IIRC, Dragon Skin didn't "fail" military proving tests... it was simply rejected.

Probably due to the fact that it's much more expensive than the Interceptor OTV.


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Haro wrote:
i think full armor is the next evolution of armor.


I think so too... in about 25-30 years. That armor is no where near being able to be fielded. I think he did a good job and he had a good idea, but it's not going to make it to soldiers.

Right now, troops have the availability of leggings and arm covers that come with the Interceptor OTV - yet VERY few soldiers were it. Namely because it's so damn bulky and difficult to move in. Soldiers sacrifice protection for maneuverability in some cases, and this is one of them.

Personally, I think Halo-style exosuits aren't what we need. We need carbon nanotube suits that are as flexible as clothing yet can absorb impacts and protect the soldier from ballistic threats.


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Haro wrote:
i think full armor is the next evolution of armor.


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Next stop north korea! :D


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An ironic historical "progression" of military technology.

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i think full armor is the next evolution of armor.


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Next stop north korea! :D


That's a very keen observation you made.

About 7000BC people fight either completely bare or clothed with a few skins.
100AD the mighty Roman Legion fights wearing a cuirass and a few other pieces of armor.
1200AD people're wearing full suits of armor.
1500AD only some officers and commissioned officers wear breast plates.
1700AD most people fight only with clothes, but some cavalry wear cuirasses.
1900AD people start understanding the protection helmets provide, and even some torso coverage comes into use.
2000AD armour inserts for most parts of the body are availible, research for full body suits has begun.
2100AD full body suits are popular and sported by 95% of the countries on Earth.
2142AD, walkers, floating tanks, anti-recoil systems, and other such marvels are widely used in the Titan wars.
2400AD we're all naked again.

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By the time this future suit gets implimented our army will be almost completely mechanized. Thats what made me so mad about BF2142! Infantry won't exist as our major attack force in the next 100 years. Just that they didn't have robotics play a major part ruined that for me its just not realistic grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. (sorry)


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